Dr.
 Randy C. Dockens has a fascination with science and with the Bible, 
holds Ph.D. degrees in both areas, and is a man not only of faith and 
science, but also of creativity. He believes that faith and science go 
hand in hand without being enemies of each other.
After completing his bachelor’s degree in pharmacy from Auburn 
University he went on to graduate school at Auburn and completed his 
first doctorate degree in Pharmaceutics. He began his scientific career 
as a pharmacokinetic reviewer for the Food and Drug Administration and 
later joined a leading pharmaceutical company as a pharmacokineticist, 
which is a scientist who analyzes how the human body affects drugs after
 they have been administered (i.e, absorbed, distributed, metabolized, 
and excreted).
Through the years, he has worked on potential medicines within several 
disease areas, including cardiovascular, fibrosis, and immunoscience to 
seek and develop new and novel medicines in these therapy areas.
He has also had his attention on the academic study of the Bible. He 
earned a second doctorate in Biblical Prophecy from Louisiana Baptist 
University after receiving a master’s degree in Jewish Studies from the 
Internet Bible Institute under the tutelage of Dr. Robert Congdon.
Randy has recently retired from his pharmaceutical career and is 
spending even more time on his writing efforts. He has written several 
books that span dystopian (The Coded Message Trilogy), end-time prophecy (Stele Prophecy Pentalogy), science fiction (Erabon Prophecy Trilogy), and uniquely told Bible stories (The Adversary Chronicles).
 All his books, while fun to read, are futuristic, filled with science 
to give them an authentic feel, have a science fiction feel to them, and
 allows one to learn some aspect of Biblical truth one may not have 
thought about before. This is all done in a fast-paced action format 
that is both entertaining and provides a fun read for his readers.
He has also written some nonfiction books as well. One is to show how 
all humans are connected from God’s viewpoint by looking at biblical 
prophecy (Why is a Gentile World Tied to a Jewish Timeline?: The Question Everyone Should Ask).
 This book shows how all scripture is connected and inclusive of 
everyone. In addition, he and his editor have written two books about 
writing. The first is on writing techniques themselves and is entitled Mastering the ABCs of Excellent Writing: Creating Vivid and Colorful Stories that Readers Want to Read.
 This book not only addresses the techniques of writing, but what makes 
writing unique to each author. It conveys not only how to better hone 
one’s craft of writing but also the brand an author wants to portray. 
This helps an author make their writing unique as well as captivating 
for his/her audience. The second is a companion book to this one 
entitled Mastering the ABCs of Excellent Self-Editing: Framing Your Colorful Masterpiece to Keep Readers Engaged in Your Story.
 This is best used in conjunction with the first one. Yet, self-editing,
 though intricately connected to writing, is a distinct event. The 
better the quality of a writer’s draft manuscript when it is delivered 
to one’s editor, the higher the final quality of the manuscript will be 
for readers, and that is extremely important.
Dr Dockens is still not done. He has other creative ideas he is bringing
 forward as he is currently working on two new futuristic series. So, 
stay turned!
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 you for your time in answering our questions about getting published.  
Let’s begin by having you explain to us why you decided to become an 
author and pen this book?

Randy C. Dockens: Although your question about how I decided to 
become an author sounds straightforward, the answer is a rather 
convoluted one. I think I’ve always had the desire to write a book and 
be published. Yet, there was never any real follow-through as it seemed 
like such a daunting task. Plus, I never felt I had the time for such an
 endeavor as I was so focused on my career: first pharmacy school, then 
graduate school, and then working with the Food and Drug Administration 
and then transitioning into the pharmaceutical industry. Yet, several 
years later, I decided to go back to school for biblical studies. I at 
first just wanted to learn to better understand the Bible, but then when
 I was asked if I wanted to audit or take the courses for credit, I 
decided that if I was going to do the work, I might as well get the 
credit. Again, no real plans there, just a desire to learn. Yet, one 
thing led to another, and I found myself with another doctorate. This 
time in biblical prophecy. I found the subject so fascinating. That’s 
when I had to decide what I was now going to do with all that new-found 
knowledge.
Once, for my pharmaceutical job, I had to take a round-the-world tour
 stopping in India and Japan for several meetings. So, while in flight, 
the idea of writing a book came back to me and I began to write out what
 later became a nonfiction book about how the entire world is tied to a 
Jewish timeline, the topic which stemmed from my dissertation about 
Gentiles in the Bible. Yet, I never got any real traction from agents on
 that concept, so I began to think about taking my biblical learning and
 putting that into fictional stories. I took my understanding of science
 and of end-time prophecy and wrote a story about a character living in 
the coming Messiah’s promised kingdom and what his life could possibly 
look like in that environment. Most people I asked about their 
understanding of this time in future history as discussed in the Bible 
stated they really didn’t understand what the Bible taught about such a 
kingdom, so I thought readers could learn something and be entertained 
at the same time.

When I talked to a publisher at a writer’s conference about my idea, 
he stated that while my idea was possibly a good story, that may not be 
the best idea for a debut novel. So, I had to think about a more general
 and relatable story. Driving home from work one day, my mind thought 
about the current world view and how God seemed to be less and less in 
our culture. I then thought about what would happen if the knowledge of 
God was completely taken away or banned. What would that look like? 
That’s when I started on The Coded Message Trilogy. This story is about 
an astrophysicist who works on a Mars mission and finds certain 
discrepancies at his work that then lead him down a road discovering how
 the masses are being controlled by mind manipulation. He then begins to
 search for the truth certain elites are trying to hide from everyone. 
It became a dystopian mystery trilogy and the first series that became 
published: 
T-H-B, 
F-S-H-S, and 
T-U-L-E. The book 
titles are the clues the characters in the books must solve to 
understand the truth for which they are seeking. The books allow readers
 to go on the same discovery mission along with the characters. And, 
just as an aside, I did get my nonfiction book eventually published: 
Why is a Gentile World Tied to a Jewish Timeline: The Question Everyone Should Ask.
 I don’t have time to go into it here, but if one likes an academic view
 of the Bible but puts it into everyday language, you may enjoy this 
book.
Despite what my publisher told me, the idea of helping others 
understand end-time biblical prophecy and being able to demystify it for
 others never went away from my mind. Therefore, being able to now put 
on both a scientific hat and a biblical prophecy hat allowed me to 
present a unique perspective for writing the Stele Prophecy Pentalogy 
series. This allowed me to present fictional stories which can provide 
entertainment for readers but can also provide biblical education at the
 same time.
This five-book series is a presentation of five stories during what 
biblical prophecy says will be a time when a Messiah will come to this 
Earth and reign. This series also calls this period the Refreshing 
because things are made new: those who were righteous have been 
resurrected, all pollution generating machinery and factories are 
eliminated, and all disease and death have been abolished. This is a 
one-thousand-year reign of the Messiah where he will reign as King of 
kings over the earth with his base of operation in Jerusalem, Israel. 
All my novels in this series are connected to each other but can also be
 read separately. Because death has been rescinded during this time, 
except for those who rebel against the King, characters within the story
 of one book can still be part of the storyline of the next book even if
 the storyline of each book is separated by several hundred years. The 
main characters in one book become the supporting characters in the 
other books.
This explanation doesn’t let you know why I chose this period to be 
the backdrop for my novels in this series. So, let me now explain one of
 the main purposes for the genesis of this series. As I stated earlier, 
there are certain aspects unique to this future time that I want readers
 to better understand. Let me elaborate.
In my first book, Mercy of the Iron Scepter, I wanted people 
to experience the wonder of this kingdom with all the peacefulness, 
beauty, and unity that will exist during this time. In Scripture, it 
talks about this Messiah, this King, to reign with an iron scepter. That
 means he will deal harshly with the sin of rebellion. So, I show what 
that looks like, but also show that there is a merciful side to this 
harshness as well. While the King deals immediately and decisively with 
rebellion, he is also loving and wants the best for his citizens of the 
world. I show that side of him in this novel as well as readers going 
through the adventures of the main character, Kalem, who is unearthing 
stelae concerning a potential prophecy regarding the King and one who 
may overthrow him.
In contrast to this utopian time is its precursor which Scripture 
calls the Tribulation Period, a time of chaos and all sorts of 
calamities—an apocalypse of sorts. Promised Kingdom takes the 
reader through this time and what it might be like to live through such 
an ordeal as we walk through this time with the main character, Edvin.
Another thing many are confused about is that sacrifices will be made
 again during this time of a future kingdom. As most Christians believe,
 Jesus Christ came as the promised Messiah the first time he came to 
earth fulfilling the Law of Moses and became the sacrifice that the 
Mosaic Law required for the redemption of mankind. Therefore, today, we 
no longer have sacrifices. So, what would make them needed in our 
future? My novel, Hope Renewed, talks about this as one goes through the adventure with Ya’akov and the decisions he makes about his destiny.
Another aspect to this future time is that someone named the Prince 
is introduced in the book of Ezekiel in Scripture. There are various 
beliefs as to who this person is. Through my book, Darkness in the Light,
 as one goes through the struggles with Me’ira, one will see that this 
Prince is not the Messiah and is not King David as some purport. This 
novel gives a reason for him being a separate individual from these and 
what his duties will be for the citizens of the world during this future
 time.
Then there is the aspect of dealing with human depravity. While this 
is a time of peace, harmony, and wonderment, there will be those who are
 still not satisfied with the status quo. I want people to understand 
that while we have dark spiritual forces today that make us do bad and 
evil things, even when those forces are held at bay (which will be true 
during this future time), the heart of mankind can still be evil and 
against God. People born during this time still need a Savior and their 
decisions, just like ours today, can have eternal consequences. As 
readers go through the storyline of Janet in Iron in the Scepter,
 we cheer her on to make the right decisions even though deep down we 
know she likely will not. It is similar to when we knew Anakin Skywalker
 would turn into Darth Vader, yet we kept hoping that he would not make 
those fateful decisions that we knew he was going to make.
Rather than present all this in a nonfiction format, I thought it 
would be more interesting to create relatable stories that readers can 
identify with and have the “learning” be in the background of these 
fictional stories. While the stories are unique to this time period of 
our future history in regard to what technology is utilized and how some
 spiritual beings are now visible, these stories are quite relatable to 
us today as these characters must still go through many of the same 
struggles and challenges we face in our day-to-day lives. People are 
people no matter in what historical timeframe in which they live. Just 
like Kalem, we struggle with knowing what is really true and don’t 
realize that truth is what determines our ultimate destiny. And like 
Edvin, we struggle to find significance in this life and sometimes we 
must go against what seems like the best solution for our career just 
because it is the right thing to do. Me’ira, just like us today, 
struggled with finding true love, and our decisions can have 
consequences that ripple through time for many generations. Then, just 
like Janet, we sometimes let pride get the better of us and cause us to 
make decisions that are unwise and actually hurt the ones we love even 
though we think we are doing something for their good when it is really 
not good at all.
I know this was a long answer to your question, but I wanted to 
explain how this series is a layered presentation to readers. The 
stories are full of adventure, mystery, and romance in a futuristic 
setting. If that is all a reader wants out of the story, then it’s 
there. Yet for those who want to understand more about this future time 
and what occurs behind the scenes on a daily basis, that is also there. I
 think readers will be able to identify with the struggles of each 
character because we struggle with those same concerns and emotions 
today as well. Reading this series is a way to enjoy a story but learn 
at the same time without realizing you are actually learning something 
you may not have known.
📙 Is this your first series?
Randy: Well, yes, and no. Why am I uncommitted in my answer? You see,
 this was the first series I wrote, but not the first series I 
published. I talked about this somewhat in my previous answer. I think 
my 
publisher felt that this series, while he liked it, might not be for a
 wide audience. Yet, I think one can argue that the stories themselves 
can be appreciated by anyone who likes a good story. At any rate, he 
suggested the first series to be published should be The Coded Message 
Trilogy. This is a dystopian mystery about an astrophysicist who is 
working on a Mars mission who gets caught up in a worldwide conspiracy 
where the reason for the Mars mission is far more sinister than the 
public is aware.
So, from a published standpoint, this is my second 
series. Each book was published four months apart, so it took about a 
year and a half for it to become a completely published series.
📙With this particular book, how did you publish – traditional, small press, Indie, etc. – and why did you choose this method?
Randy: My publisher is a hybrid of both traditional and indie. It is 
what is called custom publishing. The publisher provides many of the 
services of large publishing houses, but the author maintains all rights
 and control of their work and bears much of the cost as well.
There are a few reasons for choosing this method of 
publishing. One is that this allows me to maintain control of all 
aspects of my work. I didn’t want to go completely Indie because there 
was so much about publishing a book that I did not know. I did not go 
the traditional route because I first had to go through an agent, and I 
just could not seem to find an agent who had the same vision as me about
 this series. They just could not get past the idea that it was about a 
future kingdom as described in the Bible which they seemed to not be 
able to comprehend. One agent told me that it was too much “out there.” 
It needed to be “different” from what is already published but “similar”
 to what is already published. Confused? I know I was. It seemed he and I
 just could not get on the same page with my vision for this series. 
Therefore, I went with custom publishing. The publisher had worked in 
the traditional publishing market for several years and really knew his 
stuff, so he was able to guide me through all the hurdles of getting 
published. I felt good, though, that in the end all was still owned by 
me and I did not have to give up any rights to any part of my work.
 
📙Can you tell us a little about your publishing journey?  The pros and cons?
Randy: I think I have answered some of this in my answers to the last
 few questions. It was a rocky start, I have to say. Maybe all beginning
 authors start this way, but I was trying to get published while I was 
learning how to write well. That may have hindered my initial success 
because I was trying to incorporate all that I read about good writing 
into my writing. I likely should have waited a little longer to go to 
agents and publishers until I knew what I was doing. But that was the 
problem, I thought I did know what I was doing, but really didn’t. 
Authors, agents, editors, and publishers wrote articles about their “pet
 peeves” and I took it all to heart. However, my writing became worse 
instead of better. What I later came to realize was that all their 
comments were guidelines and not something that could, or should, be 
implemented across the board. They didn’t communicate that, however. 
This realization hit me when I read an article about a pet peeve which 
contradicted another article about someone else’s pet peeve. That’s when
 the light went on in my brain and I realized that there was no magic 
formula to writing well; it was the intent of what I was writing that 
was important. I could “break” the rules, so to speak, but I had to do 
that with intent and purpose.
As an aside, because of this experience, I and my editor have 
recently written two books about things new authors need to consider so 
they do not fall into this same trap I did. I wanted to pay it forward 
so that others could begin with a more positive experience than I had. 
These two books are Mastering the ABCs of Excellent Writing: Creating Vivid and Colorful Stories that Readers Want to Read and Mastering the ABCs of Excellent Self-Editing: Framing Your Colorful Masterpiece to Keep Readers Engaged in Your Story. These are not the end-all for writers but is a good start to have in one’s arsenal of becoming a good writer or author.
I think my initial not-so-positive encounters with agents and 
publishers led me to consider custom publishing earlier than perhaps I 
would have otherwise. Also, I think my topics and goals were so 
different from their experience with other authors and goals they didn’t
 really know what to do with me in the beginning. They couldn’t see my 
vision, or perhaps I just didn’t have the right elevator speech at that 
time to give them something that would grab their attention immediately.
By going with custom publishing, I was able to take control of the 
process myself even though I didn’t have the experience to do so because
 of the experience and guidance of my publisher.
📙What lessons do you feel you learned about your particular publishing journey and about the publishing industry as a whole?
Randy: First of all, publishing is an extremely competitive business.
 Agents and publishers are so busy they have very little time for you 
and can appear extremely rude when perhaps they don’t mean to be. I had 
one agent tell me that they read the first sentence and make an 
immediate decision of whether to continue reading or just throw it in 
the trash. Ouch, I thought. That seems rather harsh. But they 
have so many inquiries that they can afford to do that. They are not 
trying to catch your vision but see what will “sell.” Catching your 
vision on their part comes much later. You will likely have to go 
through many rejections before success happens.
I found writing conferences to sometimes be quite cold as well. Some 
people write a book and then join these conferences to teach so they can
 get name recognition. This isn’t true for all, but I did find that 
these conferences can also turn into more of a business model than a 
true place to teach new writers. Don’t get me wrong, if you haven’t been
 to a writing conference, it is worth going as you will definitely learn
 something. Just realize they can have the potential to not be as for 
you as you would wish.
Realize that you are in it for the long haul. If you go the 
traditional route, you must first get the attention of an agent. Once 
you have that, it is then getting a publisher to give you the time of 
day for a pitch. Each step is a long process and a hurdle. You must have
 confidence in yourself and your product to get beyond all the 
rejections so you can get to the finish line a winner.
Also, understand that just getting published is not the end. You need
 to promote your book. Not all traditional publishers are very helpful 
in this department. They rely on you, the author, to do much of your own
 publicity and advocacy for your product, your book.
I don’t say all of this to be negative, but just realistic. You will 
need thick skin, a belief in yourself and your product, your book, to 
make it to that finish line.
📙Would you recommend this method of publishing to other authors?
Randy: There are pros and cons to each type of publishing. Let’s look at each one briefly.
Traditional: I addressed some of this in the previous 
question. This is typically a slow and arduous process. There are those 
quick success stories, but they are not the norm. As I stated, often you
 must first go through an agent (and they are quite ruthless in their 
selections), and then that agent pitches your book to a publisher. There
 is no guarantee of the agent’s success in this regard either. Yet, 
their success is likely higher than you pitching your idea to a 
publisher. The advantage is that you will not have to incur any upfront 
costs. What you get on the backend is up to the contract the publisher 
makes with you. They will do some form of publicity for you, but they 
will still depend upon you to get the word out about your book. Another 
positive is that just being part of a reputable publishing house gives 
you some credibility that other routes of publication still do not have 
(yet, that recognition is fast becoming not as advantageous as it once 
was). There are several downsides you need to consider as well. As we 
just went over, this could be a long, arduous journey. There is much 
competition to get an agent’s attention, then your agent has several 
authors he is working with, so you are not necessarily the highest 
priority on his agenda. Another downside is that you may have to give up
 certain aspects of your book to the publisher as they may feel they 
need to control to better ensure their success. They could change the 
title, or change the ending, or other things to make it sell from their 
point of view. At times, this could be fine for you. Other times, it may
 not be, but this is something you will need to consider.
Small press: My understanding is that this is very similar to 
traditional publishing. The positive is that you are likely to be a 
higher priority on their agenda because the number of clients they work 
with at any one time is small. In addition, you may not necessarily have
 to go through an agent to get to them. They may have fewer requirements
 for you to yield over to them before publishing. However, the marketing
 of your book will likely be expected to be done by you with very little
 input from the small press publisher.
Indie: There are several advantages here as you have more 
control over every aspect of your book and its publication. Yet, there 
is also great responsibility for you at the same time. I can’t tell you 
how many poorly written books there are that go through this process 
because you as the author were unaware of the poor quality you were 
accepting during various aspects of the publishing process. Just because
 you think it is good does not mean it is. Although you have control of 
your book, you still need to understand what publishers do and the steps
 to get a book completed the right way, and the best way. As with 
everything, there is a good way and a bad way to get things done.
Custom: This is a blend of traditional and indie. Your 
publisher usually has a lot of experience like a traditional publisher 
and will be able to guide you through the process. Before choosing one, 
be sure and ask questions in regard to their experience. This is very 
important. The downside is that you will be responsible for all monetary
 aspects of your book, just like an indie author. Yet, the difference is
 that you will have expert advice given to you to help you be more 
successful and have a final product with much better quality than you 
likely would if you were an indie author and had no publishing 
experience. I would say that even if you wanted to go the indie route, 
go the custom publishing route first so you know the steps in the 
publishing process and how to get them completed in the right way.
 
📙What’s the best advice you can give to aspiring authors?
Randy: As you have probably gleaned from my other responses, there 
are many things to consider and understand, not only as you write but as
 you publish. First and foremost, I would say to learn how to write and 
how to write well before you go to a publisher with any of your work. 
There are many books out there that can help you. Although biased, I 
would suggest the two books that I and my editor published just recently
 which are geared for new authors. Some books are geared for writing but
 do not really give you the foundation of the why behind what they are 
telling you to do. The why is just as important, and I believe more 
important, than the mechanics of writing. Check them out, I think you 
will find them extremely helpful. We talk about not only writing but 
self-editing. There are differences between the two, and writers should 
know how to do both well.
Just because you have written a book does not mean you have learned 
to write well. Trust me on this. You will likely have much more 
self-editing to do if your work is your first book. Get your work to the
 highest writing level you can before you send it to an editor. This is 
crucial. And don’t think just because you have edited your own work that
 it is good enough. It is not! Period. Full stop. There are different 
types of editors, so do your homework and get one that you feel gives 
you the best advice for the money they are charging. Good editors are 
worth it, so don’t be too skimpy on this step.
If you don’t go with a traditional publisher, getting a book 
published can be quite expensive. Every step of the process requires a 
monetary output from you, the author. Many go the indie route because of
 this and find they can publish relatively inexpensively. Yet don’t fall
 for this trap. As the saying goes, you get what you pay for. Don’t 
sacrifice quality for money. I would strongly suggest that if you are 
not going the traditional publishing or the small press route, at least 
go custom publishing for your first book. That way, you can get good 
advice, know what to do and the correct steps in the process. Then, you 
can decide how to do those steps and maintain your quality if you take 
on some of those roles yourself. Be wise. If you put out a bad quality 
book, that could hurt your sales of any additional books that may be of 
higher quality. People will judge other books by an author just by 
reading one book by that author.
Most authors are not made of money, but please don’t sacrifice 
quality just because you can get published inexpensively. And remember 
that the marketing of your book will most likely be up to you. So, try 
and get a platform as soon as you can and gain subscribers to a 
newsletter or blog that you may put together. If you have any book 
signings, then be sure you have a sign-up sheet to add them to your 
newsletter and/or blog posts. The more people you have who you can reach
 out to when you have a new book, the better. You want as many reviews 
as you can get relatively soon as your book is published.
I could go on and on, but I think you get the picture. An educated author is a powerful author.